SpaceX and RV conglomerate Thor Industries are partnering up for an opportunity that could change the game for RVers who live and work on the road. Soon, RV buyers bringing home select units from Airstream, Entegra Coach, Jayco, and Tiffin will be able to have a Starlink satellite internet system right from the factory. Even better, they’ll be able to use them on the go!
The pandemic-fueled rise of working from home has allowed so many Americans to live out their dreams of seeing the country. At today’s Industry Day at the 2023 Florida RV SuperShow I found no shortage of people who don’t just camp in their RVs, but work in them, too. One of the big issues with working out of an RV is how to stay connected to the internet. After all, you can’t hand something to your boss from a national park, and I couldn’t write this post without internet access.
Staying Connected In An RV Can Be A Hassle
There are a handful of ways to stay connected. Perhaps the easiest is to find a place with public WiFi like a Starbucks or McDonald’s. Or you could use cellular-based internet and have access to the web effectively everywhere that your phone does. My wife and I use the latter option, and, honestly? It sucks.
We often camp in places where we’re too far away from any tower to get anything resembling an internet connection. This is usually fine for me–I love disconnecting from the web–but not so much for my wife Sheryl, an attorney who often finds herself unable to have client meetings or able to file documents in court. Often, this leads to us driving around until our hotspot works well enough to get the job done.
Thankfully, there are more options.
Look To The Stars
Today, Thor Industries announced that this year, a number of RVs under its umbrella will come equipped with flat high-performance Starlinks that can be used in motion. Thor is the first OEM to work directly with SpaceX on mounting Starlinks to RVs, and it says that you’ll soon find Starlinks on some Airstream, Entegra Coach, Jayco, and Tiffin models. Exact models aren’t noted in the company’s release and I didn’t find any Starlink-equipped models at the 2023 Florida RV SuperShow. These will be installed at the factory and Thor will even give you a one-month service credit. Thor expects that many of its customers will now be able to have high-speed internet just about anywhere they take their RVs.
There’s more good news, too, because you aren’t limited to a selection of Thor products when it comes to Starlink. The concept of using Starlink for an RV isn’t anything new. RV owners have already been using Starlink and some were even using Starlink in their RVs while they were moving. Doing this officially wasn’t allowed, and those who broke the rules risked losing access to the service. Things changed when SpaceX got FCC approval for Starlink’s use in moving vehicles. In October 2022, SpaceX announced a version of Starlink for moving RVs. It launched just last month.
The original Starlink portable system is $599, then $135 a month for the service. This is the one that SpaceX will not allow you to use on the move. If you want internet without stopping your RV, you have to cough up $2,500 for the flat high-performance dish, then pay $135 a month after that.
The Competition
Providers like HughesNet and Viasat are popular with RVers, but they are an imperfect solution. For starters, neither HughesNet nor Viasat directly sell their products to RVers. If you go to their websites you’ll see that they advertise for home and business use. Viasat goes as far as offering internet for aircraft, but you won’t find anything for RV use.
Thus, if you want to use these services in your RV, you have to buy the equipment itself and then install it. Then, you can enjoy the internet in places where your phone or mobile hotspot will not work. If you’ve ever wondered, here’s how satellite internet works, from Viasat:
The way most internet works these days is a simple, three-part process: The internet service provider (ISP) gets the internet signal via fiber from a collection of data servers, moves that signal to a central station, or hub, then distributes it to the modems of individual subscribers.
Those first two parts tend to be the easiest to accomplish, while the third — getting the signal to those modems — is the tricky part. That final leg is often called “the last mile,” and for many homes without adequate internet service, it’s that last mile (or multiple miles) from the hub that makes the difference.
If you think about cable or fiber ISPs, they require a technician to come out and wire each location, then connect that to the local hub. Since most homes are already fully cabled, it’s relatively simple to connect all the homes in a neighborhood. If your home is not in a populated area where it makes economic sense for the ISP to serve you with short runs from the hub to your home, it’s less simple. In the case of cable or fiber, it may mean they don’t serve you at all. For DSL from the phone company, they might serve you, but the farther you go from the nearest central station, the worse the service gets.
And that’s why satellite internet became a way to bridge the digital divide for people outside the cable and fiber zone. Satellite ISPs like Viasat work in essentially the same three-step fashion, but instead of a central station, the internet signal is delivered via fiber to a large antenna (called an “earth station”) on the ground, which then moves the signal via radio waves up to our satellite.
In this model, the satellite is functioning like that central office, and that “last mile” is more like 22,300 miles — the altitude at which our satellites orbit. The signal comes back down to your home or office and is captured by an antenna (dish) outside your home that’s aligned with the satellite. From there, the signal goes into a cable through a hole in the wall that connects to a modem — just like any other ISP.
That note about alignment is important for RVers, because your camper isn’t going to stay in one place like a house is. For many, this means parking the rig and pointing the dish in the correct direction. This is where Starlink is in the right position to do well in the RV world.
What Makes Starlink Different?
SpaceX and its competitors operate with different models. Viasat and HughesNet both depend on a handful of satellites placed far off in geosynchronous orbit. Viasat says that its satellites fly at 22,300 miles. This is fine if the extent of your internet browsing is reading hot takes about cars, but not so much if you’re a gamer. Latency–how long a signal takes to get from one point to another and back again–gets as high as 600ms with satellite internet; terrible for games where accuracy is needed. In my experience, satellite internet is also terrible for Voice Over IP, that is unless you enjoy long delays. Being so far away impacts speeds, too, and HughesNet customers can expect up to 25 Mbps download speeds and 3 Mbps upload speeds. Viasat says it offers speeds as high as 150 Mbps.
Starlink does things differently. Rather than depending on a few huge satellites, SpaceX has been launching thousands of satellites into low Earth orbit. Currently, SpaceX has about 3,000 Starlink satellites orbiting the Earth at about 342 miles. Starlink promises higher performance from this setup, currently with up to 150 Mbps speeds for standard customers and latency closer to terrestrial internet at 20 ms. However, it should be noted that Starlink speeds have dropped because of congestion issues. SpaceX expects to launch more satellites to fix it.
SpaceX’s Starlink has been a controversial subject since its satellites first started launching in 2019. Astronomers were concerned with how bright Starlink satellite constellations could impact highly sensitive telescopes and International Astronomical Union said that constellations of satellites can pose a threat to current and future astronomical infrastructures.
In 2022, NASA raised concerns about SpaceX’s plan to send 30,000 Starlink satellites into orbit, a massive increase over the 1,800 at the time. The Administration is concerned with the satellites having close encounters with other spacecraft, as well as the satellites potentially impacting safe launch windows for missions. One study found that Starlink satellites get involved in 1,600 close encounters with other spacecraft or junk every week or about half of the total close encounters. This is to say that not everyone is a fan of the service, but it’s here and RV owners can take advantage of it.
Will Starlink change the game of internet connectivity in RVs? In theory, it has the chance to. This is another RV product that I plan on testing. Since Thor didn’t even note exact models, it looks like we’ll have to wait a little longer for more information about this venture. When it does, you bet I’ll try to nab myself a unit to test out.
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We had Starlink for about one year before Fiber came to our street. We switched to fiber fairly quickly.
Overall, we didn’t notice a difference between Starlink and fiber. That’s what makes Starlink so remarkable is how good it is. Our speed tests are better with fiber but we never used the max capabilities with Starlink, even with video conferencing.
Never forget, to maximize your consumer experience, you should ideally always be looking at a screen. If you find yourself away from a screen for any length of time, you should re-evaluate your life decisions, and purchase sufficient gear to prevent that from ever happening again.
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Did you miss the whole work from home but your home is an RV part?
The internet is useful for things besides watching Netflix and scrolling Facebook
I use a cell signal booster in my Mobile Vacation Home. It allows a full 3 watts vs .6 watts for a mobile phone. With the high gain outside antenna, very few places I can’t get service as needed for remote work, thought there have still been some places, especially in mountains, where there just isn’t any signal to boost.
However, if I were in the RV as a full time thing, I would get Starlink.
We have a member of my team doing the full time living/traveling with his wife, 3 kids & 3 dogs…….(he must be a saint, but that is a different topic) He has RV Starlink. Works great even for video calls. He did not mount the disk to the 5th Wheel RV, and has a long cable so he is able to place it with a clear sky view. He doesn’t work on travel days.
I think Thor will probably screw this up… Starlink needs full sky view in order to work, which means mounting it directly to your RV means you have to only book spots in full sun, which most people won’t understand and blame the equipment for not working.
Ideally you have the RV starlink as it exists now, in a portable form, so you can put it in the sunny spot where you camp that might be away from your trailer. I don’t know how will effectively come from an RV OEM though.
Aren’t there going to be substantial issues with bandwith on these systems in the not so distant future?
Elmo will say he’s inventing a new technology to make info travel FTL. Meanwhile they’ll continue to pump satellites into LEO until we’re bordering on a Dyson sphere.
But hey, at least you can get internet in the middle of the ocean.
There are two problems with Starlink to me:
1. Elon Musk
2. Cannot be used on the go.
With my use being a work as you go, my wife and I would need to have a stable internet connection as we travel. Plus the kid can watch TV/use devices while on the go. The cats wouldn’t care as long as they are fed and have a place to sleep.
The newest version (the square) can be used on the move. And understandable about Elon, but it’s really the only game in town.
I get where you’re coming from, but….
1. If you base all your buying decisions on the behavior / ethics of the CEO of the company, good luck buying anything.
2. That’s not true. https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/25/23423755/spacex-starlink-for-rvs-moving-vehicles-flat-high-performance
“You complain about society yet continue to participate in it? Such hypocrisy.”
“It appears my hypocrisy knows no bounds .”
– Doc Holliday. Tombstone
Elon is the exception to the rule. I look at the product vs the owner 99.999% of the time.
I was not aware of the on-the-go option. The last review I saw was it was coming.
I’m not the target consumer here, but any piece of tech like this had better be fairly easy to replace. Too integrated and you find yourself hauling your useless Starlink setup when you have moved on to the next thing or it no longer functions because the service moved on.
For my ideal RV, anything integrated is unlikely to see major changes/innovations in the relatively near future. But I think a fridge, a stove, a bathroom, climate control, and a bed is kind of a fancy camper.
This is good news. Some of us need access to the Internet often when working remotely. Kristin Hanes has had it for about 9 months and can manage her blog from pretty much anywhere. She has a Sprinter that it is used with most of the time, but has used it on their sailboat in the Gulf of Mexico also.
My sister has the Starlinks in her RV. It works well enough for her WFH customer service job for a large company you’ve all heard of.
I am glad while camping that I can’t get cell service, this would drive me nuts
I think it was in another article on RV’s here, but they talked about how people would drive up to the camping spot in their RV, park and then enter the RV to watch TV for the next few days, until they packed up and went home.
It is all about the experience you want.
Myself, I like the rolling vacation home which why I would call that RVing. Go to an area I like, park the house, explore as needed. Not everyone wants to be in a tent, if you do go for it.
Yeah, complaining about people enjoying what they do just because you don’t, as long as it’s not hurting anyone/anything, who cares? Let people enjoy things.
While I do take a couple of trips a year with the explicit intent of not having cell service, having internet and being able to work while on a camping trip has greatly increased my opportunities to actually go camping. Sure, it’s not as fun to have part of your day taken up with work, but sitting next to a waterfall makes for an awfully nice office so it’s still worth it to me.